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coolwill78

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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 4:09 am

how does this work?
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PadresGM

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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 2:52 pm

When are we doing it?
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 7:01 pm

OriolesGM wrote:
When are we doing it?
Its over...
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 7:14 pm

Where are the results?
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 7:16 pm

Ok, the draft is over....

Washington selected Denard Span

Philadelphia selects Matt Kemp

Detroit selects Curtis Jackson

Minnesota selects Nate Spears
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thesoxrock34

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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 7:20 pm

Well, i got 1 million dollars.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 7:26 pm

thesoxrock34 wrote:
Well, i got 1 million dollars.
divide that by ten Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 7:34 pm

When did this happen?
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 7:37 pm

OriolesGM wrote:
When did this happen?
the past couple of days
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 7:47 pm

Why do we have an announcements page and nothing gets posted here unless it's due in two days or has already happened?
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 7:50 pm

OriolesGM wrote:
Why do we have an announcements page and nothing gets posted here unless it's due in two days or has already happened?
I posted this nearly a week ago.
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PadresGM

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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 8:12 pm

And as of 8pm yesterday there was still confusion - now it's done. We, out of the blue, are doing one right before a sim is about to happen, have the protections leak out, people still confused, then we go ahead and rush into it anyway?

Ugh....
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 8:17 pm

OriolesGM wrote:
And as of 8pm yesterday there was still confusion - now it's done. We, out of the blue, are doing one right before a sim is about to happen, have the protections leak out, people still confused, then we go ahead and rush into it anyway?

Ugh....
If you consider someone making a mistake about one of the GMs list of players confusion, then yes, there was confusion.

Out of the blue??? This was posted a week ago and I gave people two-three days to make their protections and picks.

What do you mean have the protections leak out?

And again, no one seemed to have much confusion. I dont know where you got this from.

And a week is not rushing....
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 8:26 pm

Well, not sure if I got anyone, but if the players I posted were protected, and still on my team, I am happy Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 8:52 pm

The better question is - does anyone other then you have a clue about how this just happened?

And what happened to it possibly happening live? This whole thing from start to finish has been handled piss poor. We have less active GMs - cuz there is no solid plan in place for what we're doing at any given time.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 17, 2007 9:08 pm

OriolesGM wrote:
The better question is - does anyone other then you have a clue about how this just happened?

Everyone else had no problem with it and you didnt mention any problems until now.

And what happened to it possibly happening live?

No one said anything about it being live. Why would I waste my time to conduct a draft when a lot of teams dont even use the rule V draft?

This whole thing from start to finish has been handled piss poor. We have less active GMs - cuz there is no solid plan in place for what we're doing at any given time.

Yeah, thats why this league is about to start its second season, which never usually happens in other leagues. And we have active gms, not every single team in every single league is filled up. And we have a simming schedule and I post whenever an event is about to occur every time.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 18, 2007 3:50 am

Travis Denker from the Dodgers should have been our selection as I had asked for the highest peak available on the list I provided to be selected.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 18, 2007 10:43 am

Damn lost 2 players. Spears should be solid but I'd be surprised if Jackson gets a hit. He hit .197 in Rookie ball last year. That was a big waste of 5 mil.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 18, 2007 12:46 pm

Upon looking at it further, Freddy Sanchez was the player that I had with the highest peak. I had thought maybe he was up on the Big League roster and somehow I was mistaken but I included him among the players I would draft and indeed he is in AAA and was not protected. I do agree with Baltimore on the fact that the start of the season was rushed after this draft. Sanchez is a player that would definitely have an impact on my club and now we've already played 12 games.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 18, 2007 12:51 pm

Cubs guy, I hadn't looked over your team for selecting a player in the draft. The guys taken have very high peaks. Jackson was only 17 last year and his current rating is in the 40's. I'm sure when he progresses he'll be fine though as his peak is a 97!!!!! That is a great pickup, he'll probably be one of the best SS in the game when he gets bumped back to the minors after this season for development.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 18, 2007 12:53 pm

Oh yeah, one more thing. What do you mean waste of 5 million dollars? In the run down, it says that a team selecting a player just pays the other team $100,000.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 18, 2007 4:34 pm

I had paid 5 mil to sign Jackson as a free agent. He could develop into a solid SS especially with the glove but he is prob 5-6 years away and I had other players I wanted to protect.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Feb 08, 2007 1:41 pm

OK.....looking ahead with the Rule V draft. I don't think it really mimics the reality of what happens. The players selected this year were all high peak players with the exception of one. In real life, you just don't see players like that selected in this draft. There might be a diamond in the rough once in awhile like Roberto Clemente was.....but the fact is it is not very common. I think that if we are to keep this then we should use the rule that players are automatically protected their first 3 or 4 years after being drafted (depends on their age). Or we should just get rid of it altogether as I don't see this reflecting what actually goes on in Major League Baseball.
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Feb 08, 2007 4:55 pm

uscsteve wrote:
OK.....looking ahead with the Rule V draft. I don't think it really mimics the reality of what happens. The players selected this year were all high peak players with the exception of one. In real life, you just don't see players like that selected in this draft. There might be a diamond in the rough once in awhile like Roberto Clemente was.....but the fact is it is not very common. I think that if we are to keep this then we should use the rule that players are automatically protected their first 3 or 4 years after being drafted (depends on their age). Or we should just get rid of it altogether as I don't see this reflecting what actually goes on in Major League Baseball.
It doesnt say in mogul when the players were drafted...
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PostSubject: Re: Rule V Draft   Rule V Draft - Page 2 Icon_minitimeThu Feb 08, 2007 5:28 pm

The Rule 5 draft

Eligibility: A player not on a team's Major League 40-man roster is eligible for the Rule 5 draft if: the player was 18 or younger when he first signed a pro contract and this is the fourth Rule 5 draft since he signed, OR if he was 19 or older when he first signed a pro contract and this is the third Rule 5 draft since he signed.


A way to do this might be to set the age of the players eligibility at 22 or 23 since most guys come into mogul at age 17 or 18
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